diff --git a/src/viv/viv.py b/src/viv/viv.py
index 5cb12f8..1c04de8 100755
--- a/src/viv/viv.py
+++ b/src/viv/viv.py
@@ -21,6 +21,8 @@ import sys
 import tempfile
 import threading
 import time
+from urllib.request import urlopen
+from urllib.error import HTTPError
 import venv
 from argparse import SUPPRESS, Action
 from argparse import ArgumentParser as StdArgParser
@@ -49,7 +51,7 @@ from typing import (
     Generator,
 )
 
-__version__ = "22.12a3-41-gddb03df-dev"
+__version__ = "22.12a3-44-g3b9c2e6-dev"
 
 
 @dataclass
@@ -305,6 +307,16 @@ def echo(
     fd.write(output)
 
 
+def confirm(question: str) -> bool:
+    while True:
+        ans = input(question + a.style(" (Y)es/(n)o: ", "yellow")).strip().lower()
+        if ans in ("y", "yes"):
+            return True
+        elif ans in ("n", "no"):
+            return False
+        sys.stdout.write("\nPlease select (Y)es or (n)o.")
+
+
 def run(
     command: List[str],
     spinmsg: str = "",
@@ -540,6 +552,12 @@ _viv_use({spec})
     1:
 ]
 
+SHOW_TEMPLATE = f"""\
+  {a.style('Version', 'bold')}: {{version}}
+  {a.style('CLI', 'bold')}: {{cli}}
+  {a.style('Source File', 'bold')}: {{src}}
+"""
+
 
 def noqa(txt: str) -> str:
     max_length = max(map(len, txt.splitlines()))
@@ -898,7 +916,63 @@ class Viv:
 
     def manage(self, args: Namespace) -> None:
         """manage viv installation"""
-        echo("not yet implemented. sorry")
+
+        if args.cmd == "show":
+            # NOTE: could reuse the table output for this?
+            echo("Installation Info:")
+            sys.stdout.write(
+                SHOW_TEMPLATE.format(
+                    version=__version__,
+                    cli=shutil.which("viv"),
+                    src=Path(__file__).resolve(),
+                )
+            )
+
+        elif args.cmd == "update":
+            try:
+                r = urlopen(
+                    "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/daylinmorgan/viv/"
+                    + args.reference
+                    + "/src/viv/viv.py"
+                )
+            except HTTPError as e:
+                error(
+                    "Issue updating viv see below:"
+                    + a.style("->  ", "red").join(["\n"] + repr(e).splitlines())
+                )
+                if "404" in repr(e):
+                    echo("Please check your reference is valid.", style="red")
+                sys.exit(1)
+
+            viv_src = r.read()
+
+            (hash := hashlib.sha256()).update(viv_src)
+            sha256 = hash.hexdigest()
+
+            (
+                src_cache := Path(os.getenv("XDG_CACHE_HOME", Path.home() / ".cache"))
+                / "viv"
+                / "src"
+            ).mkdir(exist_ok=True, parents=True)
+            cached_version = src_cache / f"{sha256}.py"
+
+            if not cached_version.is_file():
+                with cached_version.open("w") as f:
+                    f.write(viv_src.decode())
+
+            sys.path.append(str(src_cache))
+            next_version = __import__(sha256).__version__
+            q = (
+                "Update source at: "
+                + a.style(Path(__file__).resolve(), "bold")
+                + f" \n from version {__version__} to {next_version}?"
+            )
+
+            if confirm(q):
+                print("AWAY THEN")
+
+        elif args.cmd == "install":
+            echo("not yet implemented. sorry")
 
     def _get_subcmd_parser(
         self,
@@ -964,16 +1038,15 @@ class Viv:
             nargs="*",
         )
 
-        p_exe_python = p_exe_sub.add_parser(
+        p_exe_sub.add_parser(
             "python",
             help="run command with python",
             parents=[p_vivenv_arg, p_exe_shared],
-        )
-        p_exe_pip = p_exe_sub.add_parser(
+        ).set_defaults(func=self.exe, exe="python")
+
+        p_exe_sub.add_parser(
             "pip", help="run command with pip", parents=[p_vivenv_arg, p_exe_shared]
-        )
-        p_exe_python.set_defaults(func=self.exe, exe="python")
-        p_exe_pip.set_defaults(func=self.exe, exe="pip")
+        ).set_defaults(func=self.exe, exe="pip")
 
         p_remove = self._get_subcmd_parser(
             subparsers,
@@ -1018,7 +1091,32 @@ class Viv:
             parents=[p_vivenv_arg],
         )
 
-        self._get_subcmd_parser(subparsers, name="manage")
+        p_manage_sub = self._get_subcmd_parser(
+            subparsers, name="manage"
+        ).add_subparsers(title="subcommand", metavar="<sub-cmd>", required=True)
+
+        p_manage_sub.add_parser(
+            "install",
+            help="install viv",
+        ).set_defaults(func=self.manage, cmd="install")
+
+        (
+            p_manage_update := p_manage_sub.add_parser(
+                "update",
+                help="update viv version",
+            )
+        ).set_defaults(func=self.manage, cmd="update")
+
+        p_manage_update.add_argument(
+            "-r",
+            "--reference",
+            help="git reference (branch/tag/commit)",
+            default="main",
+        )
+
+        p_manage_sub.add_parser(
+            "show", help="show current installation info"
+        ).set_defaults(func=self.manage, cmd="show")
 
         args = parser.parse_args()